Which oil filter for 2024 FSH 222 1.9L?

[qwikkotatx]

I searched here and online and keep seeing conflicting part numbers for the newer engines. The kits I see for sale include either the 69J or the 5GH filter. Are they the same?

Would like to know which filter is correct and which XG series Fram filter crosses over for this engine. Thank you.

 

[FSH 210 Sport]

I searched here and online and keep seeing conflicting part numbers for the newer engines. The kits I see for sale include either the 69J or the 5GH filter. Are they the same?

Would like to know which filter is correct and which XG series Fram filter crosses over for this engine. Thank you.

Isn’t it the same filter as the 1.8L ?

Stay away from FRAM filters..

 

[jthackman]

pretty sure the 1.9's use the same as the 1.8's.

i use the fram tg-3614 in my 1.8

 

[jthackman]

forgot to say the xg-3614 should match

Oil filter cross reference

70 replacement oil filters for Fram TG3614. See cross reference chart for Fram TG3614 and more than 200.000 other oil filters.

www.oilfilter-crossreference.com

 

[qwikkotatx]

69J-13440-04
5GH-13440-80
These are the P/N's I see in various kits online. Perhaps the middle number is what drives the P/N and the rest are new vs old versions?

 

[Neutron]

This is the correct oil filter for the 1.9l
69j-13440-80
The 5gh is for the tr1 3 cylinder engine

 

[Neutron]

pretty sure the 1.9's use the same as the 1.8's.

i use the fram tg-3614 in my 1.8

Yes its the same filter as the 1.8l

 

[qwikkotatx]

Thank y'all very much! Can't wait to get this thing in the water.

 

[qwikkotatx]

One thing that got me thinking is that maybe the OEM filters are not as efficient by design due to the high rpm nature of these motors. Does a more efficient filter cause any oil starvation issues on the 1.9L engines?

 

[Neutron]

Why wouldn't you just use the oem oil filter that Yamaha offers? To save a few bucks a year? Makes no sense to me.
If you have engine issues and you show you always used oem products you have a much better chance getting help.
These engines are not known for blowing up due to oil starvation

 

[FSH 210 Sport]

One thing that got me thinking is that maybe the OEM filters are not as efficient by design due to the high rpm nature of these motors. Does a more efficient filter cause any oil starvation issues on the 1.9L engines?

Do you have any empirical evidence to support your thinking?

And to answer your question about more efficient filters, I use Amsoil filters in my boat and on my other vehicles, these filters are highly efficient, 20 microns absolute at 99% efficiency without restriction to flow. Mobile 1 oil filters are 95% efficient at 25 microns absolute.

This is the Amsoil filter that fits the 1.8L and your 1.9L

https://www.amsoil.com/p/amsoil-oil-filter-eaoilfilt/?code=EA15K51-EA

 

[jcb1977]

I just completed end of season oil and change I used motorcraft FL910S oil filters for my 1.9L's.....the OEM ones are getting harder to get outside of the oil change kits.

 

[qwikkotatx]

Why wouldn't you just use the oem oil filter that Yamaha offers? To save a few bucks a year? Makes no sense to me.
If you have engine issues and you show you always used oem products you have a much better chance getting help.
These engines are not known for blowing up due to oil starvation

I doubt an engine will have issues from filters alone in the first 3 years of ownership. After that there is no warranty and a better product from the start would be preferred, assuming no oil starvation issues.

 

[Neutron]

I doubt an engine will have issues from filters alone in the first 3 years of ownership. After that there is no warranty and a better product from the start would be preferred, assuming no oil starvation issues.

These engines will never have issues beyond the warranty from oem filters.
I work on these for a living and only use oem filters that were designed for these engines.
I've see well over 500 hours on some from customers who go years without an oil change. The MR1, TR1, 1.8, and the 1.9 are extremely reliable
Dont overthink it

 

[qwikkotatx]

These engines will never have issues beyond the warranty from oem filters.
I work on these for a living and only use oem filters that were designed for these engines.
I've see well over 500 hours on some from customers who go years without an oil change. The MR1, TR1, 1.8, and the 1.9 are extremely reliable
Dont overthink it

Sorry, I'm an engineer. One of our downfalls.

 

[FSH 210 Sport]

Sorry, I'm an engineer. One of our downfalls.

Being an engineer you know the value of testing data based on established testing procedures.

Look at the available options and see which ones provide this data, filtering size, efficiency rating and bypass valve operating psi. Amsoil publishes this data on their website, I had to write to Mobil 1 to get the answer, WIX XP states 99% efficiency and 20,000 mile change interval but gives no particulate size, I just called them to find that answer and waited on hold for 10 mins being told I was first in line and wait time was three mins, then was told all reps were busy and wanted me to leave a message.

If a company can make a claim but does not back that up with readily available data then their claim isn’t worth much.

You can do your own testing with used oil analysis.

Yamaha and Yamalube are quality products. Change the oil and filters based on the manual and the connext screen wellness indicator and I’m sure you’ll be good. The oil change intervals on my boat are 100 hours, what’s the change interval on the 1.9L engine? Yamaha went with a smaller oil capacity compared to the 1.8L to green up their company, so I’d be interested in the change interval.

I will state that after switching to Amsoil filters and oil the used oil that comes out of my engines at 100 hours is a dark amber compared with coal black when using the OEM oil and filters.

 

[WiskyDan]

I just smush a bunch of these into an old coffee can and jam it onto the oil filter port - works like a charm........

 

[drewkaree]

Sorry, I'm an engineer. One of our downfalls.

I'm going to make some comments, and they're not going to be nice. You're just going to have to take it, and be okay with that.




First of all, bullshit. If you know it, you can change it, and a good engineer wants to make things work. Change it, knock it off, be better, Sally.

Second of all, bullshit. Proof:

I searched here and online and keep seeing conflicting part numbers for the newer engines. The kits I see for sale include either the 69J or the 5GH filter. Are they the same?

Would like to know which filter is correct and which XG series Fram filter crosses over for this engine. Thank you.

One thing that got me thinking is that maybe the OEM filters are not as efficient by design due to the high rpm nature of these motors. Does a more efficient filter cause any oil starvation issues on the 1.9L engines?

"That got me to thinking", and you ended up wondering about FRAM?! FRAM?!?!? For the love of all that's holy man, don't tell us you're a stubborn engineer and that led you down the rabbit hole, only to end up settling on FRAM, gotdangit! To save MAYBE $20? Ermagerd, I can't even, with you! Now stop this nonsense, educate yourself, and go do better!

 

[drewkaree]

I just smush a bunch of these into an old coffee can and jam it onto the oil filter port - works like a charm........

View attachment 240757

Thanks for nothing! A heads up woulda been nice, but not you, hoarding all the tips and tricks! You're lucky you've made up for it in free beers, but I think my wallet might still be lighter, with the money wasted on the OEM filters instead of this sweet setup. This is why I double-post memes, to get back at you!

 

[drewkaree]

Why wouldn't you just use the oem oil filter that Yamaha offers? To save a few bucks a year? Makes no sense to me.
If you have engine issues and you show you always used oem products you have a much better chance getting help.
These engines are not known for blowing up due to oil starvation

About the only known oil-related issues for any of these engines (or at least often-mentioned), is OVERfilling them, causing some issues.

Mr Engineer, overthink the oil level, if anything. Just make sure you're not overthinking it outside the range of the Low and Full marks.

It's good to see you at least somewhat thinking, and not just going down the askhole route, so goodonya mate.