2017 Ar210 power

[Nimrod_R]

So am I understanding this correctly. The 2017 ar210 with the tr1 engines have 230hp, only 10 higher than the 2015 models with the mr1 engines? If thats true then they have the worst power to weight ratio of all the models. But when you move up to the Ar240 and above models you get 320hp? I have seen alot of different statements so I was just wondering. You would think that the Yamaha website would post numbers but they dont.......

 

[Ancient canoe]

The MR1 is 110 hp each and the TR1 is 115 hp. The 1.8l is 180 hp, and the 1.8l SVHO in the 195 is 250 hp.

 

[Bruce]

Adding to that, the MR-1 HO engines used outside of the 210 series are 160 HP.

Yamaha is not big on publishing horsepower claims. Generally the numbers documented for the ratings agencies are lower than those rarely used in marketing.

Yamaha boats always have higher performance than BRP powered boats of similar size and similar or horsepower rating.

The 210 series is a budget minded boat with just enough power. If you step up to the 212 series you will receive 360 HP in the same hull but I fail to understand why anyone would opt for a 19 or 21 foot boat anyway.

 

[Ancient canoe]

Price probably.

 

[Bruce]

Price probably.

I agree, I was joking. Size and budget constraints sometimes make the smaller boats a better fit.

 

[Ancient canoe]

You do have a point though as it pertains to the new 21 foot boats. Outside of the 210 they are really expensive in which case you do have to ask yourself why not just get a 24'

 

[SeanPC]

You do have a point though as it pertains to the new 21 foot boats. Outside of the 210 they are really expensive in which case you do have to ask yourself why not just get a 24'

Yeah, it's a slippery logic slope, which is why I ended up with a 24 footer. Started out looking at 19s but really wanted the wider beam and twin engine. So was dead set on a AR210 but then was worried about power and outgrowing it quickly. Next thing you know I'm look at a new prior year 242 Limited S and now I've put 20 hours on it.

 

[Nimrod_R]

The MR1 is 110 hp each and the TR1 is 115 hp. The 1.8l is 180 hp, and the 1.8l SVHO in the 195 is 250 hp.

Yea thats what I meant, I was just giving the 2 engine together rating of 220 and 230, thanks for the rest of the info.

 

[Nimrod_R]

The 210 series is a budget minded boat with just enough power. If you step up to the 212 series you will receive 360 HP in the same hull but I fail to understand why anyone would opt for a 19 or 21 foot boat anyway.

The budget was for a 190 or 195 but when we got in them they were just to small and the low windshield made me hit my head sitting in the passenger seat when turned around to spot. So I was forced to look at the next step up "210" but my favorite of course would be the 242x e-series. Just way to much money. The 212x would be a good substitute for me but still above price range.

 

[Bruce]

The budget was for a 190 or 195 but when we got in them they were just to small and the low windshield made me hit my head sitting in the passenger seat when turned around to spot. So I was forced to look at the next step up "210" but my favorite of course would be the 242x e-series. Just way to much money. The 212x would be a good substitute for me but still above price range.

You can buy a very nice used twin engine Yamaha for less than a 190/195. If you shop around you will be able to find one with nice upgrades beyond what Yamaha offers.

 

[Ancient canoe]

The 212x is definitely the coolest looking boat in the 21' lineup, but 212x jumped way up in price this last year with upgrades you may not really need. Looking used is definitely the most practical option if you are on a tighter budget. I do think Yamaha should equip some other models with the aggressive graphics. I know some may prefer the classic look, but even the other models with a wake tower have pretty boring appearances.

A new 212x cost more than an AR240, I just don't see the value in the 212x. If money isn't an issue sure, but you introduce budgets and you can get more bang for your buck in other models. Either a used AR240 or 212x save some of that dough for upgrades, or like Bruce says above find one with some upgrades already on it.

 

[tmahar146]

My biggest fear as well. Have a family of 6 and was scared we would outgrow the TR1's. Bought a 2014 AR240 and have not been disappointed. Granted we moved from a 18' Bayliner, but still the performance is night and day. Used is an option to consider, especially if you're worried about size/power.

 

[FloJet]

The 212x is definitely the coolest looking boat in the 21' lineup, but 212x jumped way up in price this last year with upgrades you may not really need. Looking used is definitely the most practical option if you are on a tighter budget. I do think Yamaha should equip some other models with the aggressive graphics. I know some may prefer the classic look, but even the other models with a wake tower have pretty boring appearances.

A new 212x cost more than an AR240, I just don't see the value in the 212x. If money isn't an issue sure, but you introduce budgets and you can get more bang for your buck in other models. Either a used AR240 or 212x save some of that dough for upgrades, or like Bruce says above find one with some upgrades already on it.

Especially when you can add the ballast and stereo system yourself for cheaper.