Here come the hybrids

[Jim_in_Delaware]

In the same regard, bigger batteries aren’t the correct solution to long distance driving. Because they take longer to charge it can be quicker to get to a destination in an EV with a standard battery that requires three stops to charge vs an extended range EV that only requires 2 charging stops. The extended range EV is then also unnecessarily hauling that bigger, heavier battery around everyday.

The conundrum becomes, however, how are we planning to use the vehicle? For a people hauler, perhaps the larger battery isn’t necessary. If one is going to tow with the vehicle and have a 1/3 loss in range during towing, perhaps a larger battery is necessary.

Jim

 

[zpaul]

So this is the step in the right direction
People want affordable trucks. Starts at $10k. Doubt it will make to US.

https://www.motortrend.com/reviews/2025-toyota-imv-0-pickup-truck-first-drive-review-japan-mobility-show/

 

[TimW451]

The conundrum becomes, however, how are we planning to use the vehicle? For a people hauler, perhaps the larger battery isn’t necessary. If one is going to tow with the vehicle and have a 1/3 loss in range during towing, perhaps a larger battery is necessary.

Jim

One always buys based upon their individual use case. There is no one size fits all. Bigger batteries have a place, but it isn’t for all, nor as much as one would think.

 

[Jim_in_Delaware]

One always buys based upon their individual use case. There is no one size fits all. Bigger batteries have a place, but it isn’t for all, nor as much as one would think.

Absolutely agree. That‘s why there is a marketplace for $20K EV‘s, EV Supercars, and everything in between.

Jim

 

[BlkGS]

In the same regard, bigger batteries aren’t the correct solution to long distance driving. Because they take longer to charge it can be quicker to get to a destination in an EV with a standard battery that requires three stops to charge vs an extended range EV that only requires 2 charging stops. The extended range EV is then also unnecessarily hauling that bigger, heavier battery around everyday.

Nope an onboard generator is the correct solution for long distance driving. Trains have been doing that for like, 100 years.

 

[Beachbummer]

BYD's $10,000 Seagull EV worrying rivals as it hits new markets

China’s BYD is launching its cheapest electric car in Europe next year. Ahead of its official debut, BYD’s $10K Seagull...

electrek.co

I mentioned this was coming in page 5 of the thread.

I think with the current state of foreign affairs the argument could be made to block such cars from the US market... But they are starting to come to life.

 

[WiskyDan]

Car and Driver ran a spoof add about the return of Pontiac that included info about their EV……I guess most people thought it was real, I sure did.