As Rumored - There is a whole new 21 Foot Line Up for 2017-BASE Model review

[Rideitout]

Did they put the cooler in the port storage because it no longer fits below the rear port seat due to the hinged cushions?

 

[haknslash]

Did they put the cooler in the port storage because it no longer fits below the rear port seat due to the hinged cushions?

Good eye and I was thinking the same. You can tell from Julian's video that you lose a bit of space in the storage opening due to the hinges. Doesn't look like a big cooler would fit under the seat storage.

 

[SCP1]

Seating capacity is now up to 10, the prior years were 9 if I'm not mistaking.

 

[SCP1]

Do all the 21's with the tower have the same Bimini top?

 

[DBamaC]

Do all the 21's with the tower have the same Bimini top?

From the pics on the Yamaha page they all appear to be the same.

 

[lashburn1]

26' Model would be nice, I'm guessing there is no market?
Surf System option on all Models seams overdue?
Boats get better every year.
Seams like they are also addressing the noise levels as well.
We could not talk to each other at cruise speed in our 2013 242LS.

 

[Ancient canoe]

So is that seadek on the swim platforms of the base tr1 models? I really dig the revamped 210s, as someone with young kids I am willing to sacrifice a power for a smaller bottom line, and I liked that they added a little tech with the connext system.

 

[GTBRMC]

#6 above is the port side access (with a cooler in pic) (which is head compartment in 240s). Starboard side 240 has similar hinged door that doubles as a wind screen. Not sure what I'm missing about glass changes...?

Dammit! I am quite sure you are right. I was hoping so much they would widen the starboard compartment door like other manufacturers have, that I read "port" in Julian's post and thought "starboard." Did the same with the photo. My bad.

Thanks for pointing out my error.

 

[itsdgm]

I'm loving those seat hinges.

 

[Julian]

I'm sure that is due to limits by their legal dept/USCG regs/ capacity.

I agree...if you put to much in they'll have to reduce seating capacity

Did they put the cooler in the port storage because it no longer fits below the rear port seat due to the hinged cushions?

I'm pretty sure that is why they put it there. Plus, now you don't have to make someone get up if you want a drink.

Doesn't look like a big cooler would fit under the seat storage.

It would be tight.

Do all the 21's with the tower have the same Bimini top?

I'm pretty sure the biminis as the same (but not certain)

So is that seadek on the swim platforms of the base tr1 models?

I don't think so....their marketing stuff I has says "Hydro-turf" on the 210s and "Teak style Marine mat deck mats" for the 212X

 

[OrangeTJ]

Quiet Cruise on the 21 footers! Finally!!!

 

[ACrews]

I'm anxiously awaiting the Boattest.com review of the new TR-1 setup. I'd be ok with a few less mph if the fuel economy is as good as it appears to be in the Waverunners.

 

[SCP1]

I'm anxiously awaiting the Boattest.com review of the new TR-1 setup. I'd be ok with a few less mph if the fuel economy is as good as it appears to be in the Waverunners.

Agreed, I just hope the hole shot is quick for water sports.

 

[Ancient canoe]

Boattest has a review up for the SX 210. You'll have to watch the video to get the test results as the results in the report are for twin 1.8s not that TR1. The results are underwhelming if accurate, not so much top speed as that was somewhat expected, but it apparently eats more fuel than the MR1. So slower and less efficient? The fuel efficiency drop is really bad. 70 miles difference in range at 6k rpm.

2017 210 Series
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RPM -- MPH - GPH - S. Miles
7800 - 43.8 - 17.3 - 114
6500 - 32.4 - 13.1 - 111
6000 - 28.8 - 11.7 - 111

2015 & Prior Year 210 Series
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RPM -- MPH - GPH - S. Miles
8000 - 46.6 - 16.4 - 128
7500 - 42.0 - 15.0 - 127
6500 - 34.0 - 10.8 - 143
6000 - 31.1 - 07.8 - 180

 

[buckbuck]

Hmmm...my first impression is those little engines are having to work pretty hard to push that boat along. Thank you for posting the data.

 

[ACrews]

Boattest has a review up for the SX 210. You'll have to watch the video to get the test results as the results in the report are for twin 1.8s not that TR1. The results are underwhelming if accurate, not so much top speed as that was somewhat expected, but it apparently eats more fuel than the MR1. So slower and less efficient? The fuel efficiency drop is really bad. 70 miles difference in range at 6k rpm.

2017 210 Series
-------------------------------------------------
RPM -- MPH - GPH - S. Miles
7800 - 43.8 - 17.3 - 114
6500 - 32.4 - 13.1 - 111
6000 - 28.8 - 11.7 - 111

2015 & Prior Year 210 Series
-------------------------------------------------
RPM -- MPH - GPH - S. Miles
8000 - 46.6 - 16.4 - 128
7500 - 42.0 - 15.0 - 127
6500 - 34.0 - 10.8 - 143
6000 - 31.1 - 07.8 - 180

I'm with you sir. I'm not impressed at all by any of those numbers. I was really expecting better.

Boattest.com usually does a great job, but I'm kinda shocked at how many inaccuracies they have in it. First off, they have the 1.8L engines in the title of video, then to go on showing the outgoing model (AR210) with the old-old-style tower. Makes me kinda question the performance numbers. I would have liked to have seen the 5,000 & 5,500 range too.

Oh well, overall, I'd have to say they done a good job at design & technology in refreshing that class. I'm almost sure Yamaha mainly focused on keeping cost down to fill a gap & I believe they achieved that. Who really buys a boat for gas mileage anyway? lol

 

[Ancient canoe]

Lots of people do, especially people that are in the value boat market which is exactly what this is marketed as. It's also not just a tick below it's predecessor (like it is with speed) it's a significant drop in efficiency. If they wanted to keep costs down, they probably should have just stuck with the MR1 rather than spending money to develop a less powerful less efficient TR1.

 

[swatski]

Lots of people do, especially people that are in the value boat market which is exactly what this is marketed as. It's also not just a tick below it's predecessor (like it is with speed) it's a significant drop in efficiency. If they wanted to keep costs down, they probably should have just stuck with the MR1 rather than spending money to develop a less powerful less efficient TR1.

I am not sure one can blindly trust boattest's reviews anymore, like we used to. Look what they published for 2017 195 (pretty ignorant if you ask me):
https://jetboaters.net/threads/the-brand-new-2017-yamaha-ar195-and-sx195.11062/page-11

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[Ancient canoe]

It very well could be an error. The actual test results in the report are definitely wrong, so they could have dubbed the wrong #s in the video as well.

 

[SCP1]

Can someone with a 2017 AR210 run some tests so we know if the Boattest review is correct? Thanks in advance.