anyone go from 1.8s to new 1.9s ?

[yam240sx]

and if so can you tell how much more you like them ? thanks

 

[ACRDSPORT14]

My son got a new Waverunner with the 1.9 and it's smoother and quieter. Haven't broke it in fully yet to see performance yet.

 

[Marvin willis]

I heard the 1.9 is slower

 

[Maccam26]

I jumped form a 2019 SX190 to a 2024 AR190 this year. So same size boat and hull. Overall after 5 hours, the 1.9 has a bit more torque and is a little quieter around 22-25 cruising speeds. It is not a night and day difference though and I wouldn't change for sake of the 1.9. I changed because I wanted the bench seating and tower. My top speed is around 40mph with the 1.9 which I believe is measured with GPS satellites now vs old boats had innacurate paddle that showed higher speeds.. this is probably why some comment it is slower. In fact, the GPS top speed of my 1.8 was probably 36-38mph but the speedo showed 41-42. the 1.9 shows about 40mph gps... so it is probably a 2-4mph increase in top speed. Still slow, if you want top speed the NA 1.8 or 1.9 is not the best option. I want cheap gas, no supercharger.

 

[Marvin willis]

There was a guy was a 23 and 24 wave runner. Said the 24 was quieter but wouldn’t get past 59 mph. The 23 would do 67. Same rpms with both skis.

 

[Maccam26]

There was a guy was a 23 and 24 wave runner. Said the 24 was quieter but wouldn’t get past 59 mph. The 23 would do 67. Same rpms with both skis.

Perhaps the 24 is governed? Guess if same RPM, that's not it.. weird, maybe something off on that 24... who knows.. All I can say is my 1.8 and 1.9 in same hull are probably similar in top end

 

[steelhorse454]

So if you went from a 2019 SX190 to the 2024 AR190, I will say there is a slight weight difference due to the tower, which will make the boat 3-4 mph slower.
When I compared a 2023 SX195 to the 2023 AR195 I purchased, the mph was I believe 54 mph compared to 50 mph for my boat.
Long to short, the 2024 tower is slowing you a bit otherwise I believe you would have seen a bigger difference if say you purchased a 2024 SX190.

 

[Maccam26]

So if you went from a 2019 SX190 to the 2024 AR190, I will say there is a slight weight difference due to the tower, which will make the boat 3-4 mph slower.
When I compared a 2023 SX195 to the 2023 AR195 I purchased, the mph was I believe 54 mph compared to 50 mph for my boat.
Long to short, the 2024 tower is slowing you a bit otherwise I believe you would have seen a bigger difference if say you purchased a 2024 SX190.

That makes sense then and probably why yamaha mentions about 6mph increase if I did SX to SX... maybe I'm seeing 2-4mph due to tower weight.

 

[Maccam26]

I am curious as to how they were able to remove 1 qt of oil in the motor using the same pan, did they change the pickup any? Kind of weird move going to less oil which means less cooling efficiency possibly ... I'll be increasing my replacement frequency a bit probably..

 

[Maccam26]

Just did my first oil change on the 1.9L at 10.3hrs. So far, it’s quieting down a bit more. Definitely a bit quieter than the 1.8. Still don’t see any meaningful difference in performance at all. Consumption seems similar to 1.8 also.

 

[ACRDSPORT14]

My son just did his first oil change on his 1.9 waverunner he only could get out 2.5 quarts. Was this your experience maccam26? thanks

 

[ACRDSPORT14]

My son's ski is fully broken in now. It can get 64.5 mph on the gps all day. My 2017 vxr with the 1.8 would go 62-63.

 

[Maccam26]

My son just did his first oil change on his 1.9 waverunner he only could get out 2.5 quarts. Was this your experience maccam26? thanks

I think I got just a tad over this like 2.6/2.7 ish. I refill used oil nto the empty bottles to see what I was able to extract. I did put new oil amount of 2.75 and it's right at the top hole of the dipstick. Mine came a tad low from the factory and I immediately filled about .5qt when I got the machine.

 

[Jaybrew]

I jumped form a 2019 SX190 to a 2024 AR190 this year. So same size boat and hull. Overall after 5 hours, the 1.9 has a bit more torque and is a little quieter around 22-25 cruising speeds. It is not a night and day difference though and I wouldn't change for sake of the 1.9. I changed because I wanted the bench seating and tower. My top speed is around 40mph with the 1.9 which I believe is measured with GPS satellites now vs old boats had innacurate paddle that showed higher speeds.. this is probably why some comment it is slower. In fact, the GPS top speed of my 1.8 was probably 36-38mph but the speedo showed 41-42. the 1.9 shows about 40mph gps... so it is probably a 2-4mph increase in top speed. Still slow, if you want top speed the NA 1.8 or 1.9 is not the best option. I want cheap gas, no supercharger.

How do you like the ar190? Salesman was telling me it’s underpowered and to go with 195 but I really don’t want supercharger maintenance or premium gas. Is ar190 good enough for family tubing and sports and running around or do I really need 195

 

[Maccam26]

How do you like the ar190? Salesman was telling me it’s underpowered and to go with 195 but I really don’t want supercharger maintenance or premium gas. Is ar190 good enough for family tubing and sports and running around or do I really need 195

I think it certainly is fine for most, unless 6-8 people all the time in the boat. We are 3-4 and it’s fine. Would I like the supercharger on occasion for the hole shot , sure… but day to day, cheap gas, ok power and less money for the boat were all factors

 

[Neutron]

How do you like the ar190? Salesman was telling me it’s underpowered and to go with 195 but I really don’t want supercharger maintenance or premium gas. Is ar190 good enough for family tubing and sports and running around or do I really need 195

Yamaha does not have supercharger maintenance like a seadoo doo does. Very reliable. Blow off valve is recommended to protect the supercharger clutch

 

[Jaybrew]

I think it certainly is fine for most, unless 6-8 people all the time in the boat. We are 3-4 and it’s fine. Would I like the supercharger on occasion for the hole shot , sure… but day to day, cheap gas, ok power and less money for the boat were all factors

Thanks it would be a family of 5 me wife and 3 girls don’t know if that would be too many for boat this would be our first boat. Just worried we buy it and not like it

 

[parkgt214]

Thanks it would be a family of 5 me wife and 3 girls don’t know if that would be too many for boat this would be our first boat. Just worried we buy it and not like it

You will be fine.

 

[Woodrow]

Throughout the service manual it explains/identifys the changes between 1.8 and 1.9.
My first oil change 1.9 motors 3.5 qts out and back in... So scratching my head on this

 

[steelhorse454]

Yamaha does not have supercharger maintenance like a seadoo doo does. Very reliable. Blow off valve is recommended to protect the supercharger clutch

When I purchased my boat in 2023, I asked the Yamaha tech at Chatlee about installing a blow off valve, and he looked at me like I was talking Greek... I have not done this yet, but may in the future.